Anyone else queasy late at night and at dawn?

Not a clinician, just a data nerd. My 9:30 sourness tracked with two variables: dinner volume and time before horizontal.

Lentil soup/roast veg = lots of fermentable fiber plus fluid; if I ate after 7 and lay down by 10, I got that rolling 5 a.m. wake-up. I logged time of last bite, approximate volume, and symptom score 1–5 at 9:30 and 5:30.

Clear pattern: smaller, earlier, lower-fat evening meal cut it maybe 70%. Worth checking whether your 4/7 nights line up with soup nights or later dinners. Are you tracking anything yet, or just going by feel?

Hi OP — I really relate to the late-night sourness and the early rolling feeling. One thing that helped me see a pattern was a tiny note on my phone: time of last bite, estimated cups of soup or veg, and a 1–5 quease score at 9:30 p.m. and 5:30 a.m. I average it weekly rather than judging any single night.

For me, the 5:30 stomach often tracks with a very brothy, high-volume dinner or lying down soon after, not with the lentils themselves. Have you noticed whether it is worse on nights you finish eating later, or when the soup is more liquid than thick?

Sending support — mornings are hard enough without a rolling stomach.

Not to derail the volume theory, but my spreadsheet says timing beat volume for me. I logged 41 nights: the 9:30 sourness hit on 12/16 nights when I finished eating less than 3 hrs before lying down, vs 2/25 when it was longer. Dinner size barely moved my trendline. The 5:30 rolling

Two kids, chaotic here too—my “dinner” is often standing over the sink at 7:45. But my 9:30 sour feeling was mostly timing: I started eating my real meal by 6:15 and doing a slow lap around the block after, instead of collapsing on the couch.

Also keep a snack-drawer ziplock of dry Cheerios for the 5:30 rolling. Two small handfuls before I lace my shoes seems to help. Is your 5:30 worse on lentil soup nights or roast veg nights? Trying to figure out if soup is my trigger.

Mine was a geometry problem more than a food problem. The 9:30 sourness tracked with last bite → horizontal time; under ~2 hrs and it was inevitable.

The 5:30 rolling tracked with sleep angle and morning hydration, not dinner volume. Left side, torso slightly elevated, and a glass of water before the walk made it a non-event most days. Not medical advice, just n=1. Sharp follow-up: what’s your last-bite-to-pillow interval? That’s the variable I’d log next.

two miles most mornings at 11 weeks is such a good win — celebrate that! I’m also in my 50s. My 9:30 sourness ended up being tied to afternoon caffeine and fizzy water after dinner.

I switched to plain water after 6 and kept a bottle by the bed, and the late quease got quieter (not gone, but quieter). The 5:30 rolling tummy was worse on days I’d been upright less the day before. Do you notice a difference on walking days vs rest days?

That might be a useful pattern to track without changing anything yet.

New angle: mine was worse on lentil/bean nights. A big bowl of dal at 7:30 and I’d wake at 5:15 with that sour roll; roasted zucchini/sweet potato nights were calmer.

I also started keeping a plain water glass by the bed and taking 2-3 tiny sips when I wake at 4, which oddly helps until real breakfast. Do you notice a difference between the lentil soup nights and the roast veggie nights, or is it the same?

I’m 8 weeks back after regaining, so I’m just tracking patterns, not trying to solve anyone.

Hi, I’m brand new here—only day 4—so I’m mostly reading and taking notes. Your post helped me feel less alone. I don’t have 11 weeks of data, but I’ve been jotting down just two things: how much water I actually drink and whether I wake up to use the bathroom. My 5:30 a.m.

quease seems worse on nights I’m a little dehydrated or backed up, not on soup nights. Does yours change if you sleep on your left side versus your back? Sorry if that’s a silly question.

mine had a beverage wrinkle: I track everything, and sparkling water, mint tea, or a big glass of cold water after 8 p.m. gave me that same 9:30 sour feeling.

Dawn rolling was worse on nights I’d had caffeine too late. Switching to tiny sips of plain warm water and staying upright while I read made a difference in my log.

Do you notice it on tea/fizzy-water nights, or is it pretty random?

And does the 5:30 rolling ease once you’re up and moving, or does it follow you into the walk?

Tbh road warrior here, so my “dinner” often happens in a hotel chair or gate area. The 9:30 sour thing for me was weirdly tied to fizzy water and straws—I’d sip a sparkling water while winding down and pay for it later.

Switchd to still water in a regular glass and the late quease got much less dramatic. Dawn is still a coin flip, but usually only when I’ve been sipping bubbly stuff late.

Do you notice it on nights you have sparkling water or use a straw, or is it strictly food-related?

Not the 9:30 kind here, but the 5 a.m. rolling stomach? Yes. I started jotting one line on a fridge sticky: dinner, time of last bite, and whether I stayed upright for a bit after.

My worst mornings followed nights I fell asleep on the couch soon after a big bowl of soup. Staying up to putter with dishes and sip water for 20 minutes made a difference for me.

Does your sour 9:30 feeling show up more on lentil soup nights or roast veggie nights? Wondering if it’s volume, fiber, or just timing in your day.

I’m 54 and mine had a weird pattern: lentil soup + roasted veg two nights in a row was worse than either alone. I made a note in my phone—dinner, how brothy, and a 1–5 queasy score at 9:30 and on waking.

The dawn rolling was worse when I went from bed straight to coffee with no water first. Have you tested a less-broth dinner or a warm-water-first morning? Curious if your 5:30 rolling happens even on nights you eat earlier, or only after those big soup/veg pots.

i’m 58 and 14 weeks-ish. The pattern I’d track is not dinner itself but the evening slope: last big fluid, last bite, and whether you’re horizontal within 2 hrs.

In my n=1 log, the 9:30 sourness showed up on nights I had a huge bowl of soup and tea at 8:45, then sat/reclined; the 5:30 rolling tracked with being flat for 7+ hrs. Front-loading fluids earlier and a slightly raised pillow wedge helped me.

In the trials they mention delayed emptying, but timing seems to matter for me. Do you notice it worse on days you walk later vs earlier?

I’m a daily weigher too, so I get wanting a clean trend. For me, the 9:30/5:30 queasiness ended up being less about volume and more about what I ate: lentil soup or a big roasted-veg bowl after 7 p.m. = noisy dawn; same meal at lunch = zero drama. Not advice, just my n=1 log.

Are your queasy nights clustering on the soup/veg nights, or are they random? And is your 4-out-of number per week or per month? That distinction helped me separate a real pattern from ordinary noise.

Three years in — my 9:30 sour feeling turned out to be carbonation. I’d have sparkling water with dinner, feel fine, then regret it lying down.

Switched to plain water earlier and it eased. The 5 a.m. rollies for me tracked more with the gap between dinner and bed than the food itself.

Are you noticing it more on days you walk later or eat earlier? There was an old thread about “evening bubbles vs morning quease” — might be worth a search.

I’m 56 and also stuck on plateau #3, so solidarity. My 9:30 quease is way wore on nights I eat dinner in the recliner and then stay parked there.

Eating at the table and staying upright for 30–40 minutes before I settle down — plus a smaller bowl, not seconds — cut it from most nights to maybe one. I haven’t figured out the late-night vs. early-morning difference, though.

Sharp question: is yours more sour/acidy, or empty and gnawing? Those feel like totally different animals to me, and I keep flip-flopping on which one I’ve got.

Does it track with lentil soup nights vs roast veg nights? For me, big fiber dinners sit heavy if I’m horizontal too soon, and I wake up sour.

With two kids, my real dinner is often 5pm with them, then I raid the snack drawer at 9 — that late nibble is what wrecks my dawn. I started jotting last-bite time + morning quease in my phone notes, and it clustered hard on after-9 eating.

Now I keep a boring bedside option (few plain crackers) and try to shut the kitchen by 8. Not magic, but 5:30 is less rolling.

I’m a spreadsheet nerd about this. I log dinner end time, how long until I lie down, and a 1–5 quease score at 9:30 and 5:30.

Mine lines up way more with the lying-down gap than with what I ate — if I finish by 6:30 and stay upright till 9, the 5:30 rolling is usually a 1 instead of a 4. Soup/roast veg didn’t move the needle.

Have you tracked the gap between last bite and horizontal? Also curious if your 2-mile mornings change the dawn score on days you go vs skip.

That’s the next column in my nerdy little chart.